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Latest find to my collection

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Latest find to my collection

Postby HLH » Thu May 03, 2018 7:59 pm

This is one of my latest additions to my growing collection. This guy is sleeping or resting. Nice and appealing patina. Good carving with fairly good details and himotoshi. Anyone knowing more of this motif or is he just another everyday figure? Most of you would agree to 19th C. But is there a way to date it more accurately. Is it made 1801 ? or 1850 ? or even 1899? All comments welcome.
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Re: Latest find to my collection

Postby Operafan » Thu May 03, 2018 8:29 pm

Hi Henrik,

I believe that it depicts a sleeping shojo. If you do a search for shojo on the forum, you will find plenty of information.

It looks to me that he / she is leaning on a huge sakazuki (sake wide cup).

Here is a photo of a sakazuki for you to decide:

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For comparison, here is a shojo from my collection, signed Tadatoshi:
Shojo 1.jpg

Shojo 2.jpg

Shojo 3.jpg
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Re: Latest find to my collection

Postby HLH » Thu May 03, 2018 8:41 pm

Thanks Alex !

I'll "google" Shojo in the forum as I'm eager to find out more.
I just found; Shōjo (少女), the Japanese word for "young girl" so this is a drunken girl and not a guy. And as you say, she's leaning on some kind of pottery.
Henrik

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Re: Latest find to my collection

Postby HLH » Thu May 03, 2018 8:42 pm

Sorry. I forgot to tell - your Shojo looks also very nice.
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Re: Latest find to my collection

Postby tanukisan » Thu May 03, 2018 9:34 pm

in Japanese mythology, a shojo refers to a sea spirit with red face and hair and an acute fondness for alcohol/ sake. Shojo is also a Japanese word for a orangutan and also a young female virgin.
To answer your query about age , I would guess that it was probably carved sometime in the second half of the 19th C.

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Re: Latest find to my collection

Postby Operafan » Thu May 03, 2018 9:40 pm

Hi again Henrik,

This is the description of Rosemary Bandini about shojo:

'In Japanese folklore shojo were renowned for their log orangey-red hair. They lived by the sea, passing their time drinking sake and sleeping off its effects. Old records tell of it being killed so its hair could be used to make a red dye. A creature of that hinterland between reality and fantasy, it is likely inspired by the red-haired orang-utans of Sumatra and Malaysia. The name is also a homophone for a young girl in Japanese, so although they are of indeterminate gender, in netsuke they often have a sweet and feminine allure.'

Even though in modern Japanese, Shōjo (少女), is the Japanese word for "young girl", Shōjō (猩々 or 猩猩), in Japanese mythology, refers to a sea spirit with red face and hair and a fondness for alcohol. This mythological creature is of indeterminate gender.
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Re: Latest find to my collection

Postby Tomohisa » Thu May 03, 2018 10:09 pm

HLH : I like your little netsuke of Shojo.
Although not a masterpiece it is an authentic one and made for the Japanese market.
The hairwork is good and the himotoshi are placed at the right spot for actual wearing the netsuke.
I believe the age is late 18 century to first half 19.

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Re: Latest find to my collection

Postby NetsukeManiac » Fri May 04, 2018 12:00 am

Since we are showing off our Shojos, here is my seated Shojo by Ikkan:

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Re: Latest find to my collection

Postby Operafan » Fri May 04, 2018 2:37 am

Lovely shojo, Dave, with nice facial expression and amazing details, as one would expect of master Ikkan. Could you please show photos of the back and bottom as well. Thanks !
Alex

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Re: Latest find to my collection

Postby NetsukeManiac » Fri May 04, 2018 6:18 am

Sorry, no more photos of my Ikkan Shojo on hand, however I have another seated Shojo by Masamori which I can share several pictures of. Quite a difference in carving quality. Masamori appears to have been a second or third tier Nagoya carver.

Dave

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