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Trying to identify by signature

Discussions of carvers, workshops and attributions. A forum to also find help on, or discuss, signatures.
odintiger
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Trying to identify by signature

Postby odintiger » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:33 pm

Hello I am reposting this single carving seperatly in hopes it may be by a modern carver and someone could shed some light on the carver and when the carving was made.

A moderator had this to say:

"The second figure does have some better qualities such as pose, movement, certain details, but also some features of a tourist piece. Perhaps it is by a late known artist so we will leave this topic unlocked in case anyone wants to opine as to signature, dating, etc."

Hope this is the right area for this question

Here is the carving and thank you ahead of time for any insights
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chonchon
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Re: Trying to identify by signature

Postby chonchon » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:21 am

秀山 (+ Kao), can be read either Shuzan or Hideyama. There is an added dot to the right of 山 which may be a smoke screen. It has elements that became fashionable around WW1, including a sort of Chinese feel to it, so be prepared to roll with the punches.
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Re: Trying to identify by signature

Postby chonchon » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:25 am

PS When I say Chinese, I mean that Chinese artists began to imitate Japanese Netsuke when they saw the market potential. Since one theme of Japanese Netsuke was classical Chinese themes, this made it easier for some Chinese artists to adapt and attempt crossovers.
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Re: Trying to identify by signature

Postby AFNetsuke » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:09 am

chonchon wrote:PS When I say Chinese, I mean that Chinese artists began to imitate Japanese Netsuke when they saw the market potential. Since one theme of Japanese Netsuke was classical Chinese themes, this made it easier for some Chinese artists to adapt and attempt crossovers.

An important piece of the puzzle, Piers!
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