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INRO SIGNATURE

Postby Victor » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:31 am

Please can anyone help me with the signature on this inro and the relevance of the decoration ?
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Re: INRO SIGNATURE

Postby tanukisan » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:52 pm

Victor wrote:Please can anyone help me with the signature on this inro and the relevance of the decoration ?


Well the figure examining the scroll is Fukurokuju ( less likely Jurojin) a god of longevity and accompanied by a minogame which is so old it has a train of seaweed growing on its back, is a symbol of longevity and felicity.

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Re: INRO SIGNATURE

Postby AFNetsuke » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:17 pm

I think it is more likely Jurojin since he is frequently seen with the minogame and a scroll. John, is there something about his appearance that leans you the other way? Can ewe see a better photo of the netsuke? Is its subject related?
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Re: INRO SIGNATURE

Postby Victor » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:18 pm

Thanks John and Alan for the info, I have added some pictures of the netsuke
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Re: INRO SIGNATURE

Postby tanukisan » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:04 pm

I confess I was deliberately introducing a tiny bit of controversy favouring Fukurokuju over Jurojin - though Jurojin is commonly linked to a deer companion than a minogame. There is of course a school of thought that Fukurokuju and Jurojin are one and the same personage/god.

The netsuke could relate to teahouse(s) beneath pine trees.
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Re: INRO SIGNATURE

Postby Bakurae » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:09 am

I like the way the scroll on the inro curves around the side so that the minogame on the back can read it!

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Re: INRO SIGNATURE

Postby Victor » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:49 pm

Many thanks for the comments, can anyone read the signature ?, please

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Re: INRO SIGNATURE

Postby MakkaPakka » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:29 pm

Victor wrote:can anyone read the signature


Hi Victor, happy to look in Laz for you and see what I can find, would you be able post a better picture of the signature?

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Re: INRO SIGNATURE

Postby Victor » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:06 pm

Hi Rob. I have tried but the signature is so small, even hard to see under a glass, I hope the images attached are clearer
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Re: INRO SIGNATURE

Postby TSB » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:51 am

Dear Victor,

I will make a try with the signature, the kanjis I hope to have recognized are 壽 石 斉.

壽 (variation 寿) Ju / Su (also possible in Wrangham Index Toshi or Naga)
石 Seki / Koku
斉 (variation 齊) Sai / Sei (variation 齊)

Possible readings could be Jusekisai or Jukokusai but I am feeling not realy fine with that. Unfortunately I have also found no artist with this name in the Wrangham Index book of Inro Artists. Only in the metmuseum as Jusekisai, please see the link

http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/58602
Kind Regards Thomas


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