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Restoration of Japanese lacquer, various techniques

Postby Natasha » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:09 pm

Speaking about the restoration of Japanese lacquer, a variety of different techniques, I mean professional restoration. Below I will provide links to well-known artists who have special education, long-term practice with the knowledge of different varnishes and techniques. Professionalism confirmed photographs of the restored work.

1. Tomizo Saratani - его работы вызывают восхищение http://www.tomizo.org/restoration.html
2. Gen Saratani is the son of Tomizo living in New York http://www.urushi.info/
3. MARIKO NISHIDE - Urushi ( Japanese lacquer ) artist, urushi restorer/ conservator, graphic designer - http://www.urushi-kobo.com/conservation ... ation.html

A professional restorer of Japanese technician should know and be able to use the traditional Japanese lacquers, to know the secrets of the old techniques, as well as to know that with time change varnishes, so when the restoration is necessary to know how to change the composition, which supplements are needed to restoration was invisible.
Thanks to the possibilities of the Internet everyone can get acquainted with the process of restoration at youtube, but very much behind the scenes. Watching movies does not mean the possibility of professional restoration.

If the restoration is needed, it is better to turn to professionals!

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Re: Restoration of Japanese lacquer, various techniques

Postby Tama » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:25 pm

That's why Clive does my restorations. He does superb, flawless restorations.

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Re: Restoration of Japanese lacquer, various techniques

Postby Natasha » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:15 pm

Could You please post photos.

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Re: Restoration of Japanese lacquer, various techniques

Postby Clive » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:38 pm

Thanks Tama for the kindly recommendation. Obviously there is an enormous range of specialised skills involved in restoration work. I believe Natasha is specifically taking about Japanese lacquer restoration which is a highly technical and specialised art and should only be carried out by an expert trained specifically in that particular craft. I myself do not currently possess the expertise to undertake serious lacquer restoration.

Always learning, always discovering though :D .. I am however now in my 3rd year of a detailed study of Urushi technique and I hope one day to add those skills to my repertoire to use in both restoration and my own creative netsuke carving activities. Here is some of my current study pieces/experiments. Learning Lacquer is a slow process and meticulous process.. for instance it's taken me almost two years to just begin to make serious progress in creating a perfectly polished deep translucent black.. and I imagine I'll be refining and developing just that one skill alone for the rest of my life.

Urushi tests.jpg


I have however done a few Kintsugi style restorations of seriously damaged wooden and ivory netsuke which the owners have been very happy with. Perhaps if they see this post they might post an image or two. Collectors who attended the INS London convention in 2013 might remember a restoration lecture I gave in which I discuss such an approach and its creative potential. (With images and real life examples Natasha :) ..such a pity you don't attend conventions or seem to travel much, do you get to see much Japanese Art in Moldova? :?

As for the shibayama "style" restoration I've undertaken, its mostly involved carving replacement inlays for ones that have been lost from a metal, ivory or wooden background. The difficulty in some shibayama restoration is when a supporting lacquer background is badly damaged. Then it becomes a much more complicated task, often requiring the skills of a number of different specialist restorers each doing their thing. :)
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Re: Restoration of Japanese lacquer, various techniques

Postby Natasha » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:27 pm

Well, here I can see several pieces, the quality of photo is very sad. I don't see restorations, as Before\After and what was done. Nothing specificю

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Re: Restoration of Japanese lacquer, various techniques

Postby AFNetsuke » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:39 pm

Natasha, your reply to Clive makes me think you didn't read his post, instead focusing on the single photo that simply showed what he stated in regards to his learning lacquer techniques. But maybe it's just a language difference.
Alan

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Re: Restoration of Japanese lacquer, various techniques

Postby Natasha » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:18 pm

Alan, let me to to clarify the situation on this topic and another one.
He wrote that he "worked on have been restorations. Restoration jobs sent to me by many of the world's top dealers and collectors of Japanese art..." How should I translate this reply?
Clive wrote:Hello Natasha.. how nice to hear from you. :)

As Judy and Alan have just explained and as I wrote in the comment you quoted, the Shibayama I've worked on have been restorations. Restoration jobs sent to me by many of the world's top dealers and collectors of Japanese art. Like most other professional restorers, our business is always undertaken on a strictly confidential basis, so I am unfortunately unable to post images.

That said, I'm sure that if you one day get to travel, perhaps even to finally get to see and handle the fine antique netsuke and other great pieces of Japanese Art that you have until now only been able to enjoy in pictures, you'll get to meet some the brilliant collectors and dealers that I regularly work with and maybe they will be happy to show you some of my handiwork in person. Failing that.. why not support the INS and come to a convention sometime? I usually exhibit and will be happy to show you my own work.

In the meantime, please accept this small token of my affection and admiration, I think you're a fantastic artist.

After reading this reply I opened the new topic called "Restoration of Japanese lacquer, various techniques" with links on the professional restorers, because I was sure that Clive was not able to do anything right with Urushi lacquers.
As soon as I posted links I could read the reply of Tama
Tama wrote:That's why Clive does my restorations. He does superb, flawless restorations.

She did not specify what kind of restoration was. This reply was posted in this topic, that's why I thought about Maki-e or Shibayama and asked Tama to post the photos of restoration. Instead of photos, I read a long praise song of Clive about himselff and the photo of lacquer things without any explanation. I asked him to publish the photos of the restoration. After 2 minutes after my post, Clive made edition of his reply and changed meaning. You, many respected Alan, write to me about the difficulties of translation! I think there are another difficulties of double standards. It is not the first time, not only with me, one more upset topic! The INS forum is not a patrimony of Clive, Judy and you! It is INTERNATIONAL forum. Do not make this forum clowning! If you are going to delete my reply, write an explanation, I post it on facebook.

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Re: Restoration of Japanese lacquer, various techniques

Postby jbjtennyo » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:54 pm

Natasha, it seems to me that things only get personal on the lounge when you want to own your threads without any other input, or by choosing who posts. The threads are open for all to comment and post. We have asked you to be civil before. You are not in a position to moderate the moderators, and your tone is not called for.
You have misunderstood, and Clive just tried to explain that he is in the process of learning the process, and his restorations that he has done are not for public viewing without the permission of the owner.
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Re: Restoration of Japanese lacquer, various techniques

Postby Oishii » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:02 pm

Dear Natasha,

I fully support the response of Judy to your recent postings !

If it is okay, let me add a few thoughts.
These are just my personal opinions, not persé the Modteam's idea on this matter.

* One of the main reasons for people to gather here on the Forum is to learn ...
exchanging ideas, hearing other's opinions, sometimes agreeing, sometimes disagreeing ... At the core of all this is the appreciation of Netsuke.

* Part of being human is that our identity, our way of expression and your opinions are personal and can sometimes clash with that of others. In the personality of artist this may find a particular sensitive expression.
Having a wonderful artist like you and others on the Forum is a privilege.

* As a Modteam we strive our utmost to treat everyone as equal and to make sure that this happens on the Forum as well.
We are sorry to read that you have the impression that this would not be the case with you. As said we appreciate your input.
I have not noticed any bias among the Modteam members in this matter. What we are here for is to facilitate and enable the open discussion.

Now let me quote a Jewish Joke that has an underlying reality that is less than funny :

“A Jewish sailor was shipwrecked on a desert island and the first thing he did was build two synagogues....
Years later when he was rescued people were bewildered and asked him:
"Why did you built two synagogues ? "
to which he replied : "Oh that other one... I won’t set a foot there !”


No doubt everyone can recognise in some kind of way this division that permeates not only religion but many layers of society.

* Natasha, what we would like to ask you is that you do not build a synagogue for yourself on this Forum, but see the Forum as an opportunity to share and to learn. A public meeting place for open discussion (that is the definition of a Forum)

* We do not want to know about any personal issues between you and Clive, but these should not overshadow and bias the postings and reactions on this Lounge.

* In all objectivity : In Clive's recent postings there has been a playfulness and some British humor that may be not always easy to understand. Sometimes it may have been a bit edgy. But I can also see that Clive has not made any "ad hominem" remarks or attacks towards you. On the contrary, I am sure he was totally honest in saying that he thinks you are a great artist. Admittedly, there was a bit of teasing in his "fan"-picture. Maybe it was Clive's way to break some of the existing defences ? We hoped that it would go down in a light way.

* All this being said, we urge you to refrain from answering in an personal and "ad hominem" way. It will lead to nothing.
I would feel sorry to see you ending up alone "on an island" instead of part of a community.

All the Best !
Jan
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Re: Restoration of Japanese lacquer, various techniques

Postby Natasha » Sun Aug 07, 2016 3:03 pm

Oishii wrote:* In all objectivity : In Clive's recent postings there has been a playfulness and some British humor that may be not always easy to understand. Sometimes it may have been a bit edgy. But I can also see that Clive has not made any "ad hominem" remarks or attacks towards you. On the contrary, I am sure he was totally honest in saying that he thinks you are a great artist. Admittedly, there was a bit of teasing in his "fan"-picture. Maybe it was Clive's way to break some of the existing defences ? We hoped that it would go down in a light way.
.......

Jan,
*I didn't know that humor of (... EDIT ...) called English! :lol:
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