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Christie's London, 8.12.2016

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Re: Christie's London, 8.12.2016

Postby DSW90049 » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:22 pm

Great pics, Vlad & Neil!

Here's a couple of my unisigned (but strongly suggestive that this is Mitsuharu's, or a close follower's, work) shishi cub's wrestling:
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Re: Christie's London, 8.12.2016

Postby Vlad » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:45 pm

The one you have shown is definitely one of the most dynamic examples coming from that studio, Neil. Longer and more mobile neck and the whole body with deeper than usual and detailed undercarving actually reminds me of the one in the British Museum signed Tomotada. There were even debates in the inner circles if it could've been an attempt of someone in Mitsuharu studio to mimic the style of the Tomotada studio, or vise versa.
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Great and rather rare pair, David, definitely wearing all the signs for Mitsuharu attribution!
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Re: Christie's London, 8.12.2016

Postby neilholton » Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:13 am

The pair of shishi certainly have lots of Mitsuharu-stuudio traits.....is this the one from Netsuke, Serious art?

I once owned this Tiger, I've only ever seen his signature once but he's such a close follower of Mitsuharu.
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Re: Christie's London, 8.12.2016

Postby Vlad » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:58 pm

And how do you read the first kanji, Neil (or anybody)? I am sure I have seen it before, but can't find for some reason... :roll:
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Re: Christie's London, 8.12.2016

Postby Oishii » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:18 pm

Hi Vlad,
the first kanji can be read "Yoshi".
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Re: Christie's London, 8.12.2016

Postby neilholton » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:26 pm

Thanks Jan...

I think if this was unsigned, Mistuharu would be who the piece is attributed too

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Re: Christie's London, 8.12.2016

Postby Vlad » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:28 pm

But of course! Thanks, Jan! Wrong stroke count once again! :oops:
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Don't we see more and more examples of connections and crosspollinations between the two SK Kyoto studios - Mitsuharu and Tomotada supported by the use of the same kanji. Could Harutada been the link, or were they all just sitting next to each other? :o
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Re: Christie's London, 8.12.2016

Postby Vlad » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:40 pm

One other good thing about living in NYC is that you can practically find anything you need, particularly information-wise. The Carre collection catalogue was not in the NY Public Library - one of the largest libraries in the World, but then it in the Thomas J. Watson Library in the Metropolitan Museum!

So here are 1) the signed Harutada shishi from that collection, 2) the signed Masatada shishi from the recent Christie's, 3) the unsigned piece from Scholten attributed by them to Harutada based on the Carre one, 4) my Harutada piece and 5) the unsigned shishi from LACMA.

What would you say about their attributions now when seen next to each other?
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Re: Christie's London, 8.12.2016

Postby Vlad » Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:02 pm

At the same time compare the Harutada-signed ones from Lazarnick, offered by M. Bernstein not so long ago and the recently sold in the Van Ham with those signed Harutada from the Hindson collection and the signed only with an unknown kakihan one in Joe's...

A hint: what I mostly usually look at is the hairwork of the main and the tail, the size and the shape of the curls and the dental work, of course... ;)
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Re: Christie's London, 8.12.2016

Postby DSW90049 » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:43 pm

Neil H, my wrestling pair is not the one from Paul M's book, 'Netsuke. Serious Art.'
It is however nearly identical.

Also mine is unsigned and I think the one in Paul's book bears a signature.
Have to check & will edit to correct if memory fails.
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