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18th Century Dutchman netsuke

Postby netsuke(enthusiast) » Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:02 am

Hello, this is my newest netsuke. It depicts a tall dutchman holding a very long wind instrument. Dutchman netsuke are usually seen with animals and children, but I have rarely seen them with just a instrument. I was wondering if anyone could give any insight. The picture that shows the best aji is the first.
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Re: 18th Century Dutchman netsuke

Postby AFNetsuke » Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:15 am

The instrument is likely a schwam which apparently was used on Dutch ships to signal hours or orders. Dutchman models holding these instruments are fairly common. One thought is that they may have been produced as mementos of visits to the Nagasaki area as the Dutch were relegated to Deshima Island there, being allowed ashore for trading and official business...and perhaps to visit local prostitutes resulting in another group of Dutchman netsuke with children on their shoulders. :love: Of course there are alternate theories as to the reason for various Dutchman models. :?:
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Re: 18th Century Dutchman netsuke

Postby Operafan » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:40 am

Here is an interesting link about the Dutch trade in Japan, and Dejima.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dejima

As you can see, every ship that arrived in Dejima was inspected. It's sails were held by the Japanese until they released the ship to leave.

When a ship approached the port, they had to announce their arrival with the trumpet-like instrument. Probably that was one of the reasons for many netsuke depicting Dutch holding a trumpet.

Here is a netsuke from my collection, probably by Tsuji, showing the 'results' of the Dutch presence in Dejima: a couple of mixed looking boys, playing with the trumpet:

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Re: 18th Century Dutchman netsuke

Postby Bakurae » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:36 pm

Alex, their faces remind me a little of your herdboy on the ox, recently posted. Maybe just generic, or the lighting.

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Re: 18th Century Dutchman netsuke

Postby netsuke(enthusiast) » Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:42 pm

Thank you all for the insight! Any thoughts on the artist? I know most of these are unsigned, but is there any idea on what school this was even from?

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Re: 18th Century Dutchman netsuke

Postby Operafan » Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:20 pm

Alison, I tend to believe that it is a pure coincidence: Tsuji worked before Nanyo, and I could not see his influence on him. In my opinion, the facial features of the two boys are quite clearly 'mixed' - Japanese / European. I do not see these features in the ox-herd.
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Re: 18th Century Dutchman netsuke

Postby netsuke(enthusiast) » Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:13 pm

Thank you Allan for the story on the Schwam!

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Re: 18th Century Dutchman netsuke

Postby netsuke(enthusiast) » Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:36 pm

One other piece of information I forgot to add. This was purchased from Mr. Garzon, he bought this at a hindman sale and OldKappa personally told him to bid on this item.

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Re: 18th Century Dutchman netsuke

Postby Bakurae » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:01 am

Some distinguished associations there; and an impressively cranky face. He makes you wonder what could have put him in that mood.

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Re: 18th Century Dutchman netsuke

Postby netsuke(enthusiast) » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:46 am

I would agree with that, other dutchman I've seen, seem to have a happier expression.


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