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Chon's Reflections

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Re: Chon's Reflections

Postby AFNetsuke » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:17 am

Piers, you didn't buy either piece?
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Re: Chon's Reflections

Postby chonchon » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:58 am

The post was not clear, Alan, but yes, the latter I did. 8-)
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Re: Chon's Reflections

Postby chonchon » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:42 pm

At certain angles in direct sunlight a deep red glow shines from within the woodwork.

The old himotoshi is a single passage that passes through one edge (purple cord). The newer double holes are drilled vertically near the monkey’s knees (brown cord).

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Re: Chon's Reflections

Postby chonchon » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:44 pm

The reverse, with and without cords.

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Re: Chon's Reflections

Postby chonchon » Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:06 am

PS Unless the latter vertical parallel holes were drilled for something else.
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Re: Chon's Reflections

Postby AFNetsuke » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:05 am

chonchon wrote:PS Unless the latter vertical parallel holes were drilled for something else.

Such as...?
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Re: Chon's Reflections

Postby chonchon » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:09 am

Hoping for suggestions! Could it have been set as a brooch, perhaps, and then reversed to a Netsuke once more?
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Re: Chon's Reflections

Postby souldeep » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:59 am

Hi Piers,

In the shot without the cords, we see the surface of the wood. In the second shot with the cords, it looks like gold leaf. Is that a bizzare trick of the photo, or is it actually lacquered and reacts in that manner when the light catches the lacquered layer?
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Re: Chon's Reflections

Postby chonchon » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:03 am

Just light reflection Martyn, off the lacquer surface as you say. Taken under old-fashioned light bulbs sitting watching TV.
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Re: Chon's Reflections

Postby chonchon » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:58 am

Today I was playing with a fairly large late Edo Manju Netsuke while watching TV and suddenly decided to measure it for fun. It reminded me of some of those lovely large examples in the Ashmolean in Oxford.

First I measured it in centimeters. = 5.9 cm.
Then I measured it in inches. = 2 and 5/16 in.
Then I measured it in the old Shaku/Kan/Ho system. = 2 Sun exactly. Hmmm....

All three systems, ie inches and centimeters form the West, and the native Shaku-Kan-Ho were legal from the end of Meiji. This old sytem of measurement was finally officially abolished in 1959, although in some areas it continues to be in use today. The tape measure I am using here has all three on it, inches, centimeters and Sun/Shaku.
I Shaku is 10 Sun, (pronounced like a short 'soon') roughly equal to 1 foot or 12 inches. Each Sun is roughly 3 centimeters, or 1 + 3/16 in. Swords are measured this way, anything less than a Shaku called a Tanto, (although there are slightly longer exceptions) less than 2 Shaku a Wakizashi and over 2 Shaku a Tachi or Katana. I once had a katana that measured 2 Shaku, 2 Sun 2 Bu... a Bu being a 10th of a Sun.

Now which system of measurement would the Old Netsuke-Shi have used when measuring up their work, I wondered?

For reference I picked up another Manju, a much older one this time. 4.4 cm, 1 3/4 in, 1 Sun 5 Bu (1.5 Sun) exactly. Hmmm...

Has anyone else noticed this. Possibly not applicable to odd-shaped katabori Netsuke though! :D

The question that popped up in my mind was, yes, were they measuring in Sun and Bu like the swordsmiths and carpenters etc.?
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