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Subject of this piece

What subject or legend is depicted in your netsuke or sagemono?
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Subject of this piece

Postby Roy » Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:21 am

Hi
I recently came across this nice looking netsuke. The carving and the condition looks pretty good. However the subject looks unfamiliar to me. Would really appreciate if you could share your thoughts on what the subject could be, for sure it is not a very common one in my limited experience.
Many thanks
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Re: Subject of this piece

Postby Oishii » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:07 am

Hello Dhiman,

thank you for posting this carving.
would you be able to provide a few more pictures of your piece, from the bottom, the back and maybe one in your hand, so that our members can have an idea of the size ? Thanks in advance !
Jan

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Re: Subject of this piece

Postby Roy » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:29 am

Hi Jan,
Many thanks for your response. Here are a few more views of the piece. Look forward to your take on the subject.
Thanks
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Re: Subject of this piece

Postby Roy » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:51 am

And here it is from the back
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Re: Subject of this piece

Postby Oishii » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:43 am

Hi Dhiman,

thank you for adding more pictures !

the signature reads "Hidemasa", an artist of the Osaka school.
It has some of the typical feaures - like the patterns on the robe and the bottom of the footwear - that we see often on netsuke signed Hidemasa. Also, the irregular reserve in which the signature is inscribed is commonly found.
A further lead may be the placement of the himotoshi.

There were several carvers that used this artist name and to make matters even more complicated, Hidemasa often signed with other artist's mei, like that of Masanao or Ogasawara Issai, both famous artists. Nevertheless, the style of these pieces is so recognisable that it points directly tot the Hidemasa studio.
On first sight, from your pictures, your netsuke may be from a pupil or later generation of the Hidemasa lineage.

His subjects are generally domestic and legendary figures or two-figure groups.

You will be able to find more netsuke from this artist on this Forum, using the search engine with the search term "Hidemasa".
Enjoy !
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Re: Subject of this piece

Postby Roy » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:20 am

Hi Jan,
Many thanks for your detailed response. I am indebted for that. So you reckon this piece comes from one of his pupils rather than the artist himself?
Also in a separate note, can you identify the characters depicted here? I am relatively inexperienced but have not come across anything like this so far.
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Re: Subject of this piece

Postby Oishii » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:35 am

You're welcome ;-)
This may be a nice occasion for other members to share their Hidemasa examples ?

It may prove not so easy to tell - from pictures alone - which of the Hidemasa artists made this piece.
Handling the piece may give more pointers, but it is not always something that can be stated with 100 % evidence.

the kanji characters are :
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https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/秀#Kanji

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Masa
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/正#Kanji
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Re: Subject of this piece

Postby dougsanders » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:29 pm

The subject appears to be Daikokuten striking an oni with a bamboo switch.

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Re: Subject of this piece

Postby Roy » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:36 pm

Shoki and Oni was the first thought that crossed my mind. But the hat is different from Shoki and this Oni seems to have one horn. What do you say?

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Re: Subject of this piece

Postby dougsanders » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:53 pm

what do I say about what?


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