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Which Sennin is this?

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Thomas1
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Which Sennin is this?

Postby Thomas1 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:27 pm

There have been a few active discussions on Sennin lately so I thought I would post this Sennin and ask which one you think he is. He seems to be holding a crane or maybe dragon foot? I can't figure it out. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Tom
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Oishii
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Re: Which Sennin is this?

Postby Oishii » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:33 pm

Hi Thomas,

thank you for your post of this wood piece.

A similar netsuke was discussed on the Forum some time ago, but that one was a ceramic piece.
Opinions were divided on what the figure represents, but surely he is holding a bird's (crane ?) claw.
You may find the thread here : (please read till the end to find the answer you are looking for ;-)
viewtopic.php?f=13339&t=8079306&hilit=masakazu
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Re: Which Sennin is this?

Postby onimh » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:00 pm

Sorry-I only just saw this post. The sennin is Tsuru.
This was my last purchase of 2017 but I haven't received it yet.
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Re: Which Sennin is this?

Postby carlomagno » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:30 pm

Do you guys have any history/description of Tsuru Sennin? I try google but only get that crazy dragon ball cartoon
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Re: Which Sennin is this?

Postby chonchon » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:18 am

Pages 25 and 26 about 2/3 down this page, show Tsuru Sennin and Kame Sennin. The crane and turtle were symbols of longevity, so maybe they took Sennin form at some time?
http://blog.goo.ne.jp/jinnsoinn
Although they have been heavily used in Anime, their origins are not clear and I can find very little on the J web.
There is a nice bronze sculpture here: https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q187657963
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Re: Which Sennin is this?

Postby onimh » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:38 am

This is more than I've ever found.
Thank you.

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Re: Which Sennin is this?

Postby tanukisan » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:55 am

Tsuru simply means crane or stork.

Seated on a stork, Choshikwa (Chinese, Chang Chih-ho) flew to heaven - 'a stork descended from heaven and on its back Choshikwa went the way of all sennin'

Josakei (Chinese Hsu Tso-ch'ing) was an 8th Century sennin who could change into a stork.

Jofuku ( Chinese Hsu Fu) searched for a medicine against death. He is sometimes depicted flying on the back of a stork.

The sennin Kohaku is depicted with a book and a stork.

Teireji ( Chinese Ting Ling-wei) lived in the mountains and after one thousand years changed himself into a stork and flew to heaven.

I cannot find any reference to a sennin having any use for a stork or a crane's leg, as opposed to the whole living animal, not even in traditional Chinese medicine (TCM). I can only conclude that it alludes to a sennin who can tranform into a crane/stork and hence he grips a tsuru leg in his hand.
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