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Who is this homely character?

What subject or legend is depicted in your netsuke or sagemono?
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Who is this homely character?

Postby AFNetsuke » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:59 pm

I've had this piece for a while and never decided who it represents. Maybe Tobosaku holding a peach but the basket being carried looks to have something else non-descript inside with just some cross-hatchings. He just looks forlorn and has a rather flat face. About 9cm tall and likely 18th century. The artist seems to have had some skills but it just comes off as a bit stiff and rather strange. The robe cloud patterns are pleasing though.
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The signature is probably added and the bottom character seems to have been put on later than the Masa character. All guesses and comments welcome.
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Re: Who is this homely character?

Postby netsuke(enthusiast) » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:27 am

While this is a complete guess, there are some similar characteristics between your netsuke and the theme of the egg tester. Both hold a rounded object of some kind, and carry a basket. Again this is a complete guess.









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Re: Who is this homely character?

Postby AFNetsuke » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:54 am

Frank, I agree that is a "wild guess". I don't think that explains the subject but credit given for thinking about it and responding.
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Re: Who is this homely character?

Postby chonchon » Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:03 am

No credit here, but I can see your puzzle, and I did think about it! 8-) For a while I played with the idea of Momo Taro, the peach boy.

For the time being I would go with an interesting version of Tobosaku, the clouds being an indication of his sagely/divine connections. (?)
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Re: Who is this homely character?

Postby carlomagno » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:23 am

Globe trousers and point shoes goes in different direction to me
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Re: Who is this homely character?

Postby tanukisan » Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:31 am

Suggest that Alan's netsuke depicts Tobosaku who has not only stolen a peach of immortality but Seiobo's basket as well!

Netsuke of Seiobo holding a similar basket -
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Re: Who is this homely character?

Postby Tama » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:12 pm

I agree with Tobosaku. Regarding the basket... he needs some place to put the other two peaches he stole from Seiobo!

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Re: Who is this homely character?

Postby AFNetsuke » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:41 pm

Thanks for the opinions. Any ideas on why he is forlorn looking? Did the carver intend this or just lack the skill to make the face more pleasing?
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Re: Who is this homely character?

Postby Vlad » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:55 pm

Not a sennin for sure, but possibly a vendor of something, or just a neighbor passing by. Live scenes became quite common in the 19th...
"Man sieht nur, was man weiß" - "One sees only what one knows". Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)

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Re: Who is this homely character?

Postby Tama » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:10 pm

Not just anyone was depicted with the cloud pattern on their robes. Seeing as Tobosaku was not a sennin, but an immortal by thievery, he would be depicted with the cloud pattern on his robe.
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