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Shunga discussion - different grades

What subject or legend is depicted in your netsuke or sagemono?
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Re: Shunga discussion - different grades

Postby jbjtennyo » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:02 am

I know only what I have learned here of shunga, but Klaus, what you say makes sense. In my mind the scene inside is more personal and intimate than the larger city scenes. The figure crouched down just inside the clam to me makes it even more personal, and it becomes more about one man's fascination and hunger for the clam itself.
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Re: Shunga discussion - different grades

Postby lohrberg » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:06 pm

Yoshiwara

No doubt about it. This a very fine netsuke of sublime shunga, the japanese way !

I attach here a picture of the old Yoshiwara seen in another perspective. Klaus' netsuke is the view from outside looking in. How does the scene comes along with the courtesan's eyes? I mean, from inside looking out.
Yes, they see the crouched down visitor passing by ......,

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Re: Shunga discussion - different grades

Postby tanukisan » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:09 pm

Shunga Scale from 1 - 10 for this netsuke of Okame teasingly rubbing/adjusting a furoshiki cloth across Fukurokuju's or Jurojin's swollen head as he reads a risque romance, with a little playful cat ( pun on the word neko for cat and prostitute) on her back beside her?

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Re: Shunga discussion - different grades

Postby carlomagno » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:09 am

IMHO a high rank shunga by all means, can you post more pictures? I gladly would give it an 8 or 9
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Re: Shunga discussion - different grades

Postby tanukisan » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:01 am

More Pics as requested, Juan Carlos -

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Re: Shunga discussion - different grades

Postby chonchon » Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:19 am

John, what an interesting Netsuke. Can you get us face shots of both characters? (Pretty please!)
Piers

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Re: Shunga discussion - different grades

Postby AFNetsuke » Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:08 pm

A great composition.
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Re: Shunga discussion - different grades

Postby billweb » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:35 pm

A very warm and enjoyable 6 or 7. Thanks for posting.

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Re: Shunga discussion - different grades

Postby tanukisan » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:15 pm

chonchon wrote:John, what an interesting Netsuke. Can you get us face shots of both characters? (Pretty please!)


Here you are Piers!

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Re: Shunga discussion - different grades

Postby lohrberg » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:06 pm

AFNetsuke wrote:Puppy love at its best. Hope you show us the other example Rheinhardt.


Yes, Alan, when I talked to you in Cologne, I knew, there was something to get back to. Here is the above mentioned second puppy shunga:

A leather pouch. We can date it to the first half of the 18'th century by means of the metal artist's signature, which reads Kanetsugu.
The design shows a house of the time with a window. I front of the house two puppies are engaged in their business. In the right corner of the window we see the head of a lady, watching the scenery. Why does she do so?

The answer and the skillful clue of the artist comes to light, when we open the pouch and see the clasp. Now we are inside the house. Oh well, in front a gentleman is positioned on cushions, again the window and we see the back of the lady, looking out to get some inspiration. As well, we can see some home interieur.

I suggest, to move a little up in this thread to see the netsuke, which fits to the pouch,

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