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Metal Netsukes

Discussions, identification and analysis of the different types of Metals used in Netsuke, predominately Kagamibuta composition.
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LUBlub
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Postby LUBlub » Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:06 pm

Good Morning from Switzerland!

This kind of material for Netsukes is very controversial, weight, tipology of artists (Metalworkers) etc....nevertheless we saw in auctions and collections
very nice pieces and subjects...Collectors in general don't give to much attention to metal netsukes this why we need to have a 360 degree vision
in the Netsuke world.
Would be interesting for our general culture on this part of materials used by artists (and experience) will many of us share their "jewels"?
I'm preparing my own contribution.
Regards.

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Postby NetsukeManiac » Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:56 pm


I recently acquired this 4.8 cm tall bronze temple bell netsuke. In fact, it just arrived at my home in Japan today. Here are a couple of photos.



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Postby OldKappa » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:07 pm

Are there any himotoshi?

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Postby NetsukeManiac » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:15 pm


Yes, there is a 'natural' himotoshi at the top of the bell!



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Postby OldKappa » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:27 pm

Sorry if I offend you...but is it a netsuke? It wouldn't hang properly when the cord is taut.

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Postby LUBlub » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:12 pm

SteamCollector wrote:Yes, there is a 'natural' himotoshi at the top of the bell!

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Hi SC...as wrote OldKappa if you consider the proper way to utilize the cord in set with ojime and netsuke in order to regulate, the "natural himotoshi" you refer is not adequate...the bell should be maybe a pendant...Personaly I never saw bell netsukes in metal...or maybe your piece is an ashtray but not
ashtry netsuke as you observe here in the photo...(LUB Coll.) in silver, unsigned.
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Postby LUBlub » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:19 pm


OldKappa...please will you help me to translate this signature in this snail
metal netské?...some idea or opinion about metal composition?
tks Antonio
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Postby Tengu » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:41 pm

Shogetsu;  think my piece is simple patinated Bronze.
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Postby OldKappa » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:10 pm

Shogetsu indeed. (K263, K183)

Since there is no metal artist recorded with that name, these are probably metal castings of a Shogetsu original.

I think that since both pieces are so similar they must be coming from the same mold. The Japanese did gold plate metal objects, is this the case with your piece?
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Postby LUBlub » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:11 pm


Tengu wrote:Shogetsu; think my piece is simple patinated Bronze.

Tks. Tengu... I have translated ShUgetsu, I don't know...
Your snail is twin of mine...maybe they produced with machine?...

I post this one, monkey, same material, the subject reproduce the original in ivory in my Coll....but each piece in different period...

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