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Discussions, identification and analysis of the different types of Metals used in Netsuke, predominately Kagamibuta composition.
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Postby Tengu » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:57 am

unbelievable where is the pipe?

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Postby OldKappa » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:10 am

Still looking for it!

Meanwhile...a red leather set with lacquered decoration (3.5x2.1cm)
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and a one case dragon & tiger bone inro (2.5x2.5cm)
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Postby LUBlub » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:48 am


Never finish the discovers...

Inro tortoiseshell for childfren (with moon ?) : 4 cm H - 3,5 cm W
Unsigned
Netsuke in green jadeite and cornaline decorated
Two ojimes one in chystal rock the other in black stone (also in the bottom)

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Postby AFNetsuke » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:59 pm


Fantastic Tortoiseshell inro, Lub. Where are the joints in the shell where pieces were fitted together? Surely there must be some but I don't see them. Do you think the inro's small size is more a function of the limitations presented by the size of the material? Or were very large tortoises used which provided a lot of shell material.
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Postby chonchon » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:34 am

Alan I was watching a documentary on J TV the other day and they were showing the workshop of one of the few remaining Bekko (pronounced 'beck-kou') artisans (Ko, or Koura = tortoise armour shell). He selects pieces of shell, and then thru boiling and other processes fuses them together to make beautiful objects like combs etc, with wonderful contrasting clear and clouded scenes within. The seams/joints completely disappear!

lub, the green jadeite Netsuke has a removable kagamibuta-style lid? Do you mean carnelian/cornelian for the lid? I once read that in ancient China the ideal Menou (瑪瑙) agate should have green on one side, and red on the other, and the mixture of greens and reds resemble the color/colour of horse brain. What is the design on the top, insects?
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Postby LUBlub » Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:52 pm

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Answers to AF Netsuke and chonchon:

Alan: I enclose new photos, under Magnifying increase lens I have not seen anything no any join...I assume 3 possiblities: 1.- the chonchon note about Bekko technic...2.- the thickness of this small inro (born to be used by children) is 1.5 cm....so some old turttles shells have a very thick material.
3.-maybe the join is in the top and in the base ov the body but invisible...
chonchon: tks for your contibute about Bekko.
the green jadeite Netsuke has a removable kagamibuta-style lid?: yes, see the foto, the lid is fixed with gold wire (photo).... in this case they are two different kind of stones, jadeite and carnelian...the design is two fruits and leaves...

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Postby NetsukeManiac » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:03 am


lub41 wrote:The smaller metal inro in the world?

I can't imagine the purpose of this very small reproduction of Inro.
Please some ideas?...

Gold and silver inlaids (face A face B)
Ojime in metal with gold inlaid
Size 3 cm L. 2,4 cm W.




Here's half of a kinchaku netsuke similar to yours. The size stated was 5.5 cm x 4 cm.



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Postby LUBlub » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:33 am

SteamCollector wrote:
lub41 wrote:The smaller metal inro in the world?

I can't imagine the purpose of this very small reproduction of Inro.
Please some ideas?...

Gold and silver inlaids (face A face B)
Ojime in metal with gold inlaid
Size 3 cm L. 2,4 cm W.


Here's half of a kinchaku netsuke similar to yours. The size stated was 5.5 cm x 4 cm.

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Strange decor, very nice patina, warm, a old piece, ...I like very much, tks
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Postby chonchon » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:55 am

lub: "chonchon: tks for your contibute about Bekko.
the green jadeite Netsuke has a removable kagamibuta-style lid?: yes, see the foto, the lid is fixed with gold wire (photo).... in this case they are two different kind of stones, jadeite and carnelian...the design is two fruits and leaves..."

Mmmm... I love that. Many thanks.

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Postby LUBlub » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:53 am


Again...the smaller in the world...?

The LUB Collection
Size: 3.9 cm L x 2.8 cm W
Material: metal with inlaid figure in gold, the top is screwed
Ojime: angel skin coral, chrysanthemum flower

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