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B_art79
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Postby B_art79 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:13 pm


This very nice piece i bought lately has a beautiful finish...
I was wondering if anybody here could tell me how this is done???
The dark dots on this piece are very bright is this painted???
And the metallic look???
Maybe someone has an idear of who it could have made?
The seller told me it's on old piece (1850-1899), but it doesnt seem to be worn...
Tanx for your help!
Cheers B_art
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JimLewis
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Postby JimLewis » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:13 pm

IS it metal? Is it heavy? What else did the seller say about it?

If it is not metal and the metal look is in the finish, does it extend INSIDE the holes? Can you scratch anything (try inside the holes, with a needle or icepick and be careful)?

I get the [u:27qi1ga1]impression[/u:27qi1ga1] (primarily from the feet) that this is moulded or, if of metal, cast.

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B_art79
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Postby B_art79 » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:43 pm

Hi Jim,
hmmm sorry, forgot to say that this piece is of(box?)wood. I can get some bits out the himotoshi but why should I do this?
The inside of the holes is not colored and you can still see the wood.
furthermore the seller didn't say much else...
It's about 1,5 inch long and 0.75 inch high
Thanx for responding
B_art79


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chonchon
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Postby chonchon » Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:06 am

If you know it's (box?)wood, then you don't need to scrape anything.

We didn't know what it was made of at first. Jim's suggestion was one method to try and establish that your Netsuke wasn't made from resin etc.

I've never seen a surface like that, but it will certainly be interesting finding out how it was done. It looks like some kind of metallic/ceramic finish, but how could they do that on wood? [img:29hfges3]http://forums.netsuke.org/images/boards/smilies/confused.gif[/img:29hfges3]

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Postby PETE » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:58 am


I have a netsuke with a similar finish. It has been lacquered to imitate Shibuichi which is a metal alloy often used in japanese metal work, especially in sword fittings.

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Postby chonchon » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:32 am


Thanks for the info Pete. Always something more to learn! 8-)
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Postby B_art79 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:36 pm

Hi,
Afriend told me it could me colored with AgNO3 (silvernitrate?) in multiple layers this gives that metallic looking finish. I believe the dark spots are laquared.
Anybody an idear if this netsuke could be placed by a style or school?
And are there simulair netsukes known like this one?
Cheers,
Bart


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