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stag antler or ivory

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DreamCollector
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stag antler or ivory

Postby DreamCollector » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:32 am

This item listed as stag. The porous structure looking drilled and not the same as in stag antler.
So I have doubts about this and maybe it is ivory ?
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Vlad
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Re: stag antler or ivory

Postby Vlad » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:19 am

Usually these models are carved of walrus tusk
"Man sieht nur, was man weiß" - "One sees only what one knows". Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)

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Re: stag antler or ivory

Postby chonchon » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:25 am

No "crushed ice" pattern of walrus. I am guessing ivory too.
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Re: stag antler or ivory

Postby KPR » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:48 am

I vote for walrus.
But beware, this model was very often fabricated in all kinds of resin. Sometimes in high quality.
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Re: stag antler or ivory

Postby szwang » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:54 am

I'll vote for resin.. looking at the discontinued cracks, and even signature, the carving lines looks uneven and shallow. Another place is the bottom of the foot, there's this prominent small places which reminds me of not good molding. However, if just assuming I'm right, the coloring is the best I've ever seen on a resin one, it even has the yellowing of the outer layer of ivory, and the other dyeing is all there as well.

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Re: stag antler or ivory

Postby jbjtennyo » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:28 pm

Enlarging the bottom, I also saw, chunks of something embedded in the caving--on his foot are two and on the base are two that I can see as well. The rest as you say seem believable as it has clean grooves with no residue or bubbles that I can see. IT would take handling the piece to know for sure. Or perhaps Clive would see something that we don't..it's either a nice netsuke or a nice copy of one!
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Re: stag antler or ivory

Postby chonchon » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:39 pm

Now you have got me reappraising. The resin theory is gaining ground in my mind.
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Re: stag antler or ivory

Postby NetsukeManiac » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:40 pm

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Re: stag antler or ivory

Postby Operafan » Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:00 am

Expensive 'hot pin testing object': at the moment € 240, and going (has not met the reserve price yet)... :roll:
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Re: stag antler or ivory

Postby Tsunuki » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:07 am

:lol:
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I have two of these, they're absolutely plastic. Maybe celluloid? While spurious, they're certainly very detailed.
Where is this auction at?
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