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Discussions, identification and analysis of the different types of Bone and Antler
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Postby gleeson » Mon May 10, 2010 4:00 pm

i've seen one other jawbone on a dealer site but it was in much better condition than this one. i assume there probably was a metal insert with a ring at one time?

i don't find it especially attractive. i guess my father purchased just to have one in his collection. any idea what animal this jawbone came from and how old it might be?
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Postby pjburton » Mon May 10, 2010 4:07 pm


I've got one of these albeit mine isn't laquered and has a nice aged look/patina and I have seen them catalogued both as the jaw of a wildcat and the jaw of a fox.
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Postby AFNetsuke » Mon May 10, 2010 5:25 pm


Gleeson, I would think it's the lacquered maxilla of a wolf or large dog. Since a hole is drilled all the way through it is more likely a himotoshi than a hole to accommodate a metal fitting I would think but either way a metal fitting would work.
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Postby gleeson » Mon May 10, 2010 6:19 pm

[url=http://www.asia-flachsmann.com/netsuke_nr_95.html]here's[/url] a link to an example with a metal ring fitted into the hole.

would love to see yours pj to compare. thanks for both your and AF's comments. :)
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Postby AFNetsuke » Mon May 10, 2010 8:00 pm


Gleeson, right you are about the metal fitting. And it may be a mandible rather than the maxilla. I was keyed in on maxilla of wolves this morning as I was reading of the American Indians trimming them to fit inside their own mouths for use with a skin worn over the head for presumably ceremonial purposes. Is there a dentist on the forum who can help here?
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Postby JimLewis » Tue May 11, 2010 1:53 pm

They look like Canine teeth to me.

I find them singularly unappealing, and wonder who would have commissioned something like those. They're almost cultish -- as if they were the emblem of some secret society.

(Shudder :shock::roll:)


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Postby gleeson » Tue May 11, 2010 4:05 pm

perhaps a small wolf? i remember when i posted a wood wolf with deer haunch, carlomango posted a photo of a smallish wolf that is indigenous to japan. do wolves hold any special significance in japanese culture/folklore? this is a stretch, but in one of my son's video games (a japanese video game), the hero is a wolf with supernatural powers.

i agree with you jim. it's definitely not my favorite piece, not even close. i think my father purchased so he would have a an example. it doesn't appear to have been very expensive.
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Postby JimLewis » Tue May 11, 2010 6:40 pm

How large is it? What is it made of?
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Postby gleeson » Tue May 11, 2010 7:48 pm


"JimLewis":34f88ij0 wrote:How large is it? What is it made of?
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from tip to tip, the canines are 4.3cm wide. overall, the piece is 4.8cm tall x 4.0cm. i think it's an actual jawbone that's been lacquered. above, AF seems to agree.
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