Vlad wrote:Sorry Martyn, I am not sure I understand what you are saying. I don't think anybody argues about this being a great addition.
I guess it's me not understanding you Vlad - thought on the previous page you said it was great.
I think it's a great addition. SC has said it's a great addition, a number of your BOD colleagues think it's a great addition. It is Christmas time and the forum traditionally goes quiet this time of year but the response hasn't been as positive as I had hoped.
Vlad wrote:How is this going to help increase the membership, if now one may pay once in 5 years to get all those copies available to him?
Fair point. You are of course right. Someone could become an INS member, say each 5 years, and then download the last five years of PDF's.
Another counter argument - Someone may just download and send to a "friend".
There are many counters but some "reasonableness" needs to be afforded to the membership. I don't believe even a minority of the membership is out to cheat the INS. Note I said believe - If you have evidence to sway my belief feel free to share it.
Lets just say that a new reduced membership fee could was implemented for electronic only format. I'm going to pluck a figure out of the air here, but lets say $50 a year to receive only the electronic journal version.
Do you think for most $50 a year becomes an attractive proposition to get sent the latest journals electronically? Just a reminder - for the money we spend on Netsuke do you think the new collectors would go through the rigmarole of becoming a member by-annual to get one year for free?
Yes you are right - it's a potential issue but every idea has a counter
No idea is perfect - but let's not stop suggesting ideas. It's just about finding the one that ticks the most boxes rather than it being the perfect solution.
Vlad wrote:who you refer to as "all of us", are we talking about?
Well again I said I "believe". I have faith in the forum regulars. I think we all want to see this forum and the INS grow. I re-quote my post below;
"I believe all of us still using the forum would like a way to help it's success and expertise grow"
I invite counter examples that support your argument otherwise.
Vlad wrote:The years of annual hefty donations from private sponsors may be well behind us. The future of this organization may heavily depend on what it does to attract new members, particularly using the available to us electronic tools including this Forum.
I won't pretend to understand what you guys on the BOD know but as you say - the society is going through change. Based on what you have shared here it suggests the source of the societies funding is drying up and the society needs to look to look to a new funding source.
My idea is to switch to a low premium high volume model. Make data available in electronic format to members as an international organisation. Allow access to this data via a lower membership fee and watch the membership ranks swell.
As an added bonus if the society went fully electronic journal you cut out in one move the high printing costs.
(Personally, like Luigi, I would pay more to keep getting the printed journals but this is directly counter productive to membership growth - it just pushes the society down the road of elitism).
Vlad wrote:We bring this issue up at every BOD meeting, but no easy solution has surfaced yet.
Yes it's a gamble Vlad - but you raise the real problem in your comment regarding funding above. You also say the issue has been discussed bod meeting after bod meeting but no change has yet been unanimously agreed. All I want to do is share another solution hopefully worth discussing at your table (of course it's just an idea to stimulate debate).
Unfortunately an organisation only has so long (usually intrinsically linked to its credit line) to agree on a future strategy before it may find the options it debated on the table start to fall off.
PS No I haven't read the financials. Could you share a link if you have one?