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Map of Edo/Meiji Japan identifying carving Schools

Postby maric » Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:57 am

I've been trying to find such a map without success.
For those of us in the West who are unfamiliar with geographical Japan, especially as it was in Edo/Meiji, this would be a great help with our reseaech.
Can anyone help?
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Re: Map of Edo/Meiji Japan identifying carving Schools

Postby MakkaPakka » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:48 am

Hi Maric

There is one in the front of the Netsuke 7 set of books. If you PM me your email address I will scan it and send to you.

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Re: Map of Edo/Meiji Japan identifying carving Schools

Postby Vlad » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:43 pm

It would be nice if you could post it here as well, Rob. I, for one, am not sure what is it that Maric is looking for to start with. What schools are we talking about? Since there were no formal schools until possibly the Tomochika one in Tokyo later in the days, the somewhat artificial classification was suggested by geographic location - provinces and major cities. But there were more than one master studios located in many of them, often differencing in styles and time periods. So, what is it exactly you are looking for in your research, Maric?
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Re: Map of Edo/Meiji Japan identifying carving Schools

Postby chonchon » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:06 am

I have a map of Edo Japan showing most of the major Katchu-Shi armour makers by region, and another locating the major swordsmiths.

One for Netsuke-Shi would certainly be useful.
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Re: Map of Edo/Meiji Japan identifying carving Schools

Postby maric » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:23 am

That's it exactly Piers!!
I'm in the process of rereading Raymond Bushell's "Collectors Netsuke"- excellent in in detail- but somewhat convoluted in it's layout. It offers no help as to where the various regions are. Bushell assumes that the reader would know this!
With your expertise Piers, I'm sure that you could put something together based on your armory maps!

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Re: Map of Edo/Meiji Japan identifying carving Schools

Postby Vlad » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:43 pm

Oh, so you were looking for the regions, Maric! Edo Japan maps are readily available on the net. Here is a few examples with different level of details...
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Re: Map of Edo/Meiji Japan identifying carving Schools

Postby LUBlub » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:50 pm

[b]maric[/b]

maybe as curiosity netsuke map - but they are other's around -
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Re: Map of Edo/Meiji Japan identifying carving Schools

Postby chonchon » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:43 pm

Yes, it could be done with a map like one of Vlad's above, and in the sea bubbles with arrows pointing to the main traditional regions.

Each bubble to be filled again with names of schools and known individual carver names.
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Re: Map of Edo/Meiji Japan identifying carving Schools

Postby AFNetsuke » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:01 am

An attractive slice of walrus tusk, Luigi. Have the place names on it been interpreted and are they consistent with contemporaneous paper maps? Old maps are fascinating and I'm particularly drawn to those with fanciful names and geography.
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Re: Map of Edo/Meiji Japan identifying carving Schools

Postby maric » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:58 am

Thanks Vlad for the various provential maps of Edo Japan.

Piers- I like your idea of bubbles in the sea, each to be filled with names of schools and known individual carvers.

I'll try to work on this one. Trouble is, at 76, my eyesight is not as good as it used to be!!

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