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International Netsuke Society - Bringing netsuke to the digital generation... 2024-04-24T21:32:04 http://forums.netsuke.org/feed.php 2024-04-24T21:32:04 2024-04-24T21:32:04 http://forums.netsuke.org/viewtopic.php?t=8081647&p=87943#p87943 ]]> 2024-04-24T11:41:26 2024-04-24T11:41:26 http://forums.netsuke.org/viewtopic.php?t=8081647&p=87942#p87942 Waits for the answer of a more knowledgeable person ...

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I'm continuing to work with the ISP to find a resolution to this one remaining issue. Over the next few weeks, whilst these investigations are taking place, you may experience some periods of downtime.

I will provide a further update when I have something more concrete to share.

Thanks again for your patience.

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Probably not relevant here, but we find guns from Yonezawa with the character 米 burnt into the stock. 米 kome, rice, can also be read bei (as in 米国 Beikoku = America), or like on these guns, Yone (as in place names like Yonezawa). In fact 米 it has a raft of meanings and uses.

*For example the statement that Netsuke of sharks are not common 'probably because there are few sharks or whales in Japanese waters'. I am sure this is a fallacy and certainly in fishing communities they would have been very familiar with both. It is more likely that their shape made them less suitable as Netsuke subjects.

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Note the color, whiter than usual, and the skepticism ("Coincidence or not...") transpiring from Gabor's text about the multiple copies of that hit the market in the same period. Again, a paranoid mind might shiver at the thought of a forger intent on copying famous antler pieces from the Trumpf Collection book...

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which bears a full ⽶齋 Beisai signature in seal form:

The next-to-last record - supposedly reindeer antler - points to a picture , but comparing the details of the stain it is easy to conclude that it is in fact the same piece:

There is however another Beisai toad reproduced in a hard-to-find article by Anne Hull Grundy in Oriental Art 6/3 (1960), which is in turn cited in the Trumpf book:

The resemblance between these two toads and my ojime is so strong that, if the latter was in fact not carved by Beisai, it can only be considered a forgery meant to deceive.

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I think this is the same piece described (without picture) . Both Moss' book and the auction description mention another shark, which first surfaced in a reader's letter to Bushell in INCS-8/4:

Note that Bushell did not connect the ⽶ seal to Beisai. This piece (or a twin) then resurfaced . The antler looks remarkably white in the auction picture, and I see several similarities in style with the toad ojime (e.g., the making of the eyes):

A paranoid mind might start wondering whether "Harald Frohlich, West Germany, both carver and collector" had anything to do with it...

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There's not much to say here apart from the fact that the color of the antler appears to be a rich yellow.

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The style is so different from all of the other carvings in this thread that I'm wondering if it might be by a different Beisai, or maybe just bearing a fake signature.

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